On a score of 1-5 stars (5 being the best), how do you rate Memoirs of a Geisha?
* couldn't stand it!
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0%
[ 0 ]
***
5%
[ 1 ]
****
26%
[ 5 ]
***** Loved it!
68%
[ 13 ]
Gave up on it (explain why below)
0%
[ 0 ]
Didn't read this one
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Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7637 Birthday: 7th July
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: June Book Choice - Memoirs of a Geisha
Memoirs of a Geisha by Arthur Golden
Discuss your thoughts on the book here as soon as you have finished reading it. Did you (not) enjoy it? Anything that struck you or maybe someone else can answer if you have a question? We're not really looking for in depth discussions...just tell us what you think of it!
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject:
I read this a long time ago and have recently watched the film. Can't remember too much about the book although the film brought some of it back. No doubt reading what others say will help as well. I do know I enjoyed it but didn't 'love' it.
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Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 404 Birthday: 27th February
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject:
I also read this quite a few years ago. I remember quite enjoying it until....
Spoiler:
the end which I felt was rushed almost as if he wanted to hurry up and finish it also the end was disappointing in my opinion it was too much happy ever after for me...I'm not sure this needed to be a spoiler but I wanted to test the button!
I agree with Charlotte on this one.
Overall I found it an enthralling read. However I do have a strong liking for any books set in the East - fact or fiction. So it was always one I was going to give a more than even chance. Still have not seen the movie - but I did get it for my birthday, just not had time to sneeze recently!
I read this years ago when it first came out and I absolutely loved it at the time, I still remember sections quite vividly, especically the sumo wrestling match and the roof incident. This book spurred me on to read lots of fiction set in the far east.
I found the film was so visually stunning that it somehow distracted my attention from the film, ad that you didn't get to know the characters from the film as well.
I have read it twice yet...still not seen the film. Haven't read it this month for this...(only just joined...) but did re-read it last year.
This time I got more interested in the details about life as a Geisha and then got hold of 'Geisha of Gion' and also another book (which I have not read as yet). I guess in terms of sparking an interest like that it was good as well.
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject:
I loved this book, I really felt like I was transported away every time I opened it. I will def read again - it was brill! _________________ Currently reading: The Human Stain by Philip Roth
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I agree with you Miranda, I loved this book. It's not normally my kind of thing but a friend had been telling me to read it for a couple of years and I finally did and I really enjoyed it. Thought the film was very good too but not AS good! _________________ Swap List: http://tinyurl.com/33pg6r
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I am not currently reading this book, but it's not that long ago that I read it, so will add my two-pennyworth here - especially as I found it such an enthralling read.
I started it when I had a day off work, and couldn't put it down all day! I can't remember when I had last read a book that kept me turning page after page.
Beginnings:
This story of a little girl, sold by her father as her mother lay dying, tugs at the heart strings. Nothing is explained to the child - she isn't even lied to - so she puts her own interpretation on everything that happens to her, creating a story that seems, to her, to make sense.
Of course, her interpretations, hopes and expectations are wide of the mark. the reader, wiser in the ways of the world, can see what is really happening and feels for her bewilderment and distress. _________________ Talk about books - any books - at http://www.bookgrouponline.com/forum/index.html?
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:
I read this book a short while ago and loved it , really pleased i read it was very easy to get into and kept me enthralled _________________ too many books so little time
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject:
Hello all!
Well, I didn't realise this was such a long book. Is there are movie version out there thats shorter? Maybe thats the one I remember seeing. Anyway I gave this one 4 stars.
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Firstly I thought there was some really vivid imagery in this book. I was definately transported to those places. I loved the description of all the kimono, kind of want one myself now
The translators note at the beginning made the whole story more real. Even though I knew it was fictional it made me take the story more seriously.
This story made me realise just how western I really am. I mean, I'm pretty open minded but there some things that are just not acceptable here, and probably weren't acceptable here in the 30s and 40s. Like the bidding for Sayuri's virginity - that Dr guy would be locked up here But it was an interesting insight into Japanese culture and I'm kind of sad that its almost vanished nowadays. I guess I just don't like when things have to change
I felt that the women, while clearly not valued as women, seemed more substantial than the men, who were sort of 2-dimensional. Do you get what I mean? Maybe its because the story was told by a woman.
My opinion of Sayuri really changed as I read, mainly because of how she treated Nobu and how she and Mameha treated Hatsumomo. Hatsumomo undoubtedly deserved to get a taste of her own medicine but I always believe that you shouldn't lower yourself to a bully's level. By refusing to react in the way they want you inevitably become the better person. So that bit grated a little. And poor Nobu, didn't you just love him? Loved the Chairman too tho
So I for one am glad she got her hearts desire at the end. I think someone else said the ending was too happy but I disagree. I think the ending is tinted with sadness and this makes Sayuri's story much more poignant.
Apologies as usual for the long long long post but I like to get it all out. And I suppose thats the point of a reading group _________________ Currently reading: Man in the Dark by Paul Auster
I agree with you, nicnic, - as you said in your 'spoilered' comment, the end is not too happy
Spoiler:
Sayuri ends up as the Chairman’s mistress, but she is never promoted to the position of wife, so her future is always dependent upon her continuing to please him. She has no more status or security than any other geisha
I was going to say the same sort of thing megustaleer. I agree completely _________________ Swap List: http://tinyurl.com/33pg6r
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Read this one a long time ago but remember really enjoying it - again it's a genre (the Oriental theme) that I am particularly drawn to so that's probably won it two stars from me already!! without even mentioning how much the story gripped me which earned it another 3 stars.... _________________ Currently reading - The Italian Boy - Murder and Grave Robbery in 1830s London - Sarah Wise
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 4137 Birthday: 12th December
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject:
It is a long time since I read this book, I think it was one of those rare occasions when Mr BF got some samples before they went on general sale.
Spoiler:
Its difficult to say if I enjoyed it. It was interesting but my rather strong feminist ideas rebelled against women been trained from a child to to nothing but please men. Imagine having your virginity sold to the highest bidder, doesn't bear thinking about. But on one level I did like the book and even watched the film. ( I didn't realised it rained so much in Japan).
I got round to watching the film at long last!
Hubby watched it with me and enjoyed it...(dare I say...lol)
I thought the film was weak compared to the book, I'm not sure the whole relationship with the Chairman & Nobu came over as intended.
It was quite stunning in it's photography & I did enjoy it - but not as much as I thought I would. Maybe I'll try it again, I might pick up on things I missed the first time. Sometimes when you have read the book first you keep waiting for things to happen & forget to watch whats actualy going on on screen.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:57 am Post subject:
Just finished reading Memoirs yesterday and thought I would write my thoughts on it before I get stuck into the next book.
I would give this book 3.5 stars … but think I can only do 3 or 4 so I’ll give it 4. Here’s why:
Spoiler:
I quickly became absorbed in this book, learning about Japanese culture at that time and about what it meant to be a Geisha. I liked the interaction of the different women in the Okiya … Hatsumomo’s nastiness, the friendship between Sayuri and Pumkin, and then Sayuri’s relationship with Mameha. I loved hearing about the different styles of Kimonos, with their elaborate colours and embroidery.
Sayuri’s relationships with the main men that come into her life – Dr Crab, the General, Nobu and the Chairman didn’t interest me as much to be honest. I found the nature of the relationships with the women to be so submissive a little disturbing. I know that this is the whole cultural difference and that the Geisha were ‘trained’ to wait on the men. I just found it uncomfortable to read about.
Also, even though Sayuri’s life was all about bringing her closer to the Chairman, I didn’t feel their relationship was explored enough for me to care whether they got together or not. I actually remember feeling that when I watched the film too. Maybe I shouldn’t watch the film before I read the book!
Even though I found the majority of the book readable, I felt that the section after the war breaks out to the end a little tired. Almost like the book ran out of steam, either that or I had. Maybe I felt it was a bit too long.
Saying that, I like the poetic style of Arthur Golden’s writing and had to keep reminding myself at times that it wasn’t a woman writing. Very clever literature!
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