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On a scale of 1-5 stars (5 being the best) how do you rate Atonement?
* Loathed it
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
**
11%
 11%  [ 2 ]
***
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
****
17%
 17%  [ 3 ]
***** Loved it
23%
 23%  [ 4 ]
Gave up on it (explain why below)
17%
 17%  [ 3 ]
Didn't read this one
23%
 23%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 17

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: October Book Choice - Atonement Reply with quote

Discuss your thoughts on the book here as soon as you have finished reading it. Did you (not) enjoy it? Anything that struck you or maybe someone else can answer if you have a question? We're not really looking for in depth discussions...just tell us what you think of it!

For those who have finished it, please choose a star rating for the book based on how much you liked it. What did you think of it? Do you have any questions based on the book?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't be reading this one
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have this one and I really want to read it before I see the film... I've heard good and bad reviews about the film though!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be reading this book next and really want to see the film as well. Lisa x
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've read it and seen the film and for once I think the film is better than the book - its definately more gripping than the book.

I found the book quite slow at the beginning - my OH felt that way about the film. But its all very important as we find out later...

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I found it very hard to decide how I felt about Brionny. Cecelia was just plain annoying, but you can't help but pity her, especially given the way she dies. And I defy anyone not to fall in love with Robbie (this is especially a risk when watching the film ). The tragedy of their romance, lives and deaths is almost too much to deal with. But Brionny??

Was it her fault?....well, yes, some of it was. She should have got her facts straight and it was blatantly obvious to anyone with half a functioning brain cell that she liked to make things up and fantasised about Robbie as being some kind of knight in shining armour. Old enough too, to know right from wrong but young enough to get her wires crossed about things she just doesn't (and shouldn't at that age) understand.
But the adults, well, surely they would do more than take a 13 year old girl's word for it. They really did an appalling job of investigating. Thank goodness we have a better legal system now!!

The parts that remain with me after reading are the war scenes, the painful imagery of Dunkirk and the horrible fate those men faced.



I thought the ending was superb. Completely out of the blue. I gave the book 4 out of 5, because I think a less determined reader could get bored at the beginning.

PS - go see the film, its brilliant.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to start this book this evening and looking forward to it!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicnic wrote:
I found the book quite slow at the beginning


That is exactly my opinion on it (I am quite at the beginning myself and so far it's been less than gripping). I'm glad to hear it picks up after a while
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know I read this book a few years ago but I've now entirely forgotten all about it. I think I thought it was ok but I wasn't gripped and would agree with some of what nic said. I'm not sure...thing is I don't want to re-read because I know I didn't love it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too found this book instantly forgettable. It was slow at the beginning and for me didn't pick up. I didn't connect with any of the characters and couldn't care less what happened to them. There was a bit of a twist but it was a hardly WOW I didn't expect that. More like oh that was a twist in the plot. My most abiding memory was the writing style. The more I read the more I felt the author saying look at me aren't I clever. Won't be rushing out to buy any more of your books, Mr McEwan.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read this 4 years ago and still remember so much about it.
It was a slow book but don't remember having trouble picking it up or getting distracted (like i've done with MKD this month).

I remember the ending of course in particular, and how it was open to interpretation,. My sister read it with me and hadn't noticed how Briony had phrased things at the end and turned the story upside down.

Looking forward to the movie and the lovely James McAvoy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: atonement Reply with quote

I read this when it was first published and must admit found it rather slow, however, I had to read it again for an English course, and I think it improves with re-reading. It's a book of many layers, a lost world of innocence, and a recreation of a time now buried in memory. I found Part One very slow but loved part two and thought that the descriptions of Dunkirk were very reminiscent of Birdsong.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

Read this a few years back (have a signed copy from Ian, wooo!) but I didn't enjoy it as much as I had enjoyed some of his previous work. I found my mind frequently wandering and wasn't gripped by the lead characters. I found the description of war tough-going and then I remember just being a little confused at the end.

Having said that, I saw the film recently which brought the whole story alive for me and I loved it. Not sure if I reread the book now, if I would enjoy it more. When I saw the film I didn't guess the twist so I obviously didn't remember key elements of the book!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave this one 4 stars, mainly because the first part was so slow. I was also a bit confused and disappointed by the ending at first, but later on it hit me what had really happened. Overall I really enjoyed this book, and think it would definately be worth reading for a second time.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished it, and wow what a book. I couldn't put it down and enjoyed savouring it - definitely one of the best books I've read this year. I didn't find it slow. It reminded me a lot of The House at Riverton and I kept thinking this was how that book should've been written. I'm sure Atonement influenced Kate Morton as there are lots of parallels between the two books.

Loved the writing style and didn't think McEwan was trying to be clever or show off at all (leave Margaret Drabble to do that ).

Part II had me in tears, so much awful suffering. I actually felt I was Robbie, that's how good McEwan's power of description is in this book.

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I had no idea that what I was reading was Briony's story, that she was the narrator. How sad to discover Robbie and Cecilia never met again. Like Nicnic, I was appalled at how easily Robbie was condemned, but am not surprised. Silly girl handing out Cecilia's letter (what a great letter - the doing and undoing of his union with Cecilia). His brilliant future in tatters - he deserved to succeed, yet look at the course of events his life took. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I feel that they never got to be together; that he never got to lick the indent in Cecilia's shoulder (or words to that effect). I could feel the passion he had for her burning from the pages Silly, silly Briony, she really annoyed me, yet I got to like her almost when she became a nurse.

There's a part of me that wasn't convinced at Cecilia's and Robbie's attraction at first, but I was as the book progressed. I imagine this'll come across better in the film. It'll be interesting to see how the book is translated to film. Can't wait.



Superb book

PS A million times better than Enduring Love in my opinion!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoiler:

The more I think about it, the more cheated I feel at discovering Briony Tallis is the author of the story. Cheated because she's an unreliable witness therefore an unreliable narrator? I think so. Now I'll never know exactly what happened to Robbie and Cecilia, and Briony was so vague at the end of the novel as to whether she and Cecilia ever met again.

It's not just Briony to blame for Cee and Robbie's separation. Amazing how you can be so sure of your future, yet events can conspire to dramatically change your life for the worse. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I want what happened in the novel to have happened, not just be Briony's imagined account. When we last see Robbie, I did wonder then if he was dying. So tragic.

McEwan's description is amazing, I felt. I couldn't help but feel a sense of foreboding for the main characters by the way he described everything, mainly the house, as past its best, and in a state of decline. this book will stay with me for some time.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The scene in the flat when Robbie comes out of the bathroom feels slightly unreal, and it didn’t quite make sense that he was fit and well, when at the hospital those returning from France were in desperate need of medical attention (although that may now all be with the benefit of hindsight).
I really want to reread this one at some point, as I think it will be a different experience now that I know that Briony is the narrator (I had absolutely no idea all the way through the book that this was the case). I don’t tend to reread books anymore, as there are always so many good books out there waiting to be read, but I think that I will make a definite effort to reread this one, perhaps in the New Year.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes Mcalpindale, you're right about Robbie being too well when he walks from the bedroom. I expected him to turn up in one of the hospitals, but didn't question it when he appeared at Cecilia's place. Thinking about it, it makes sense he died of scepticaemia (sp). When Briony removes shrapnel from one of the patients' legs she explains they'll contaminate his bloodstream if they stay in. And we know Robbie had shrapnel embedded in his side (I could feel it) so maybe that's Ian McEwan's way of telling us he died? In reality we have no idea what happened to Robbie, whether he had shrapnel lodged in his body..



Would love to know Jobar what you learnt about the book whilst analysing it at college.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glynis wrote:

Loved the writing style and didn't think McEwan was trying to be clever or show off at all (leave Margaret Drabble to do that ).



That's the great thing about books, everybody gets something different from them. This months choices seem to have divided opinions quite a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have now finished & loved it.

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Like alot of others I found it slow at the beginning but was gripped by the end. I disliked Briony intensely at the beginning & saw her as a precocius little madam but I grew to like Briony as an adult & think the guilt she lived with was a punishment of sorts, but probably not enough. So wanted Cecilia & Robbie to get back together. For some reason I always knew she was the narrator. I'm still confused though by the part about her cousin Lola & the american (can't remember his name).
Even though they married eventually did he assault her that night or was it consensual?? She claimed the marks on her wrists & the scratches were from her brothers before the lake incident. This also makes her & the american guy as guilty as Briony. Just read through some other reviews on this book & only realised that the draft of a novel Briony sent to the publisher's & had a long rejection letter from was the novel she later wrote. An interesting book which I think I could reread one day so it's a keeper. Can't wait to see the film as it's meant to be quite faithful to the book. Not a huge fan of Keira K (she definitely needs feeding), but the guy playing Robbie's a bit of an alright!


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I loved it, I wasn't sure I would because I wasn't overly keen on Enduring Love, but it was so much better. I just wish I hadn't seen the film first, as I knew what happened. Although if I hadn't seen the film I probably wouldn't have read it.

I agree about it being quite slow to start with though. And I didn't really like Briony as a character.

amarie, when I saw the film there were some lads walking ahead of me and I heard them say that the problem with Keira is that she's so skinny, I was quite impressed that they thought that.



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