On a scale of 1-5 stars, 5 being the best, how do you rate Jane Eyre?
***** (Loved it)
65%
[ 13 ]
****
15%
[ 3 ]
***
5%
[ 1 ]
**
0%
[ 0 ]
* (Loathed it)
0%
[ 0 ]
Didn't finish the book, gave up on it
0%
[ 0 ]
Didn't read this one
15%
[ 3 ]
Total Votes : 20
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blueflower Babbling for Britain
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 4137 Birthday: 12th December
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:02 pm Post subject:
No I don't think mine does say it an autobiography or if it did I missed it. I would love to see the paintings Jane did which were described in detail. They sounded like something Salvidor Dali would have done and I bet psychologists would have a field day with them. ( He's one of my favourite artists and I once did a presentation on him and his paintings. When you look at his life you can see why his paintings would be 'different' but I think they are fantastic, and yes a psychologist would have a field day with me).
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:17 am Post subject:
WARNING! THE FOLLOWING POST INCLUDES THE EYRE AFFAIR SPOILERS!
Well I stayed up late to finish Jane Eyre. I couldn't sleep without knowing whether
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she goes back to Mr Rochester. So when I read the famous words, 'Reader, I married him' (which I always thought were written by Jane Austen, SHAME on me!), I yelled YES! Bloody Yes! inwardly of course So flipping satisfying that she and Edward had a child and never tired of each other's company, as she feared he might do of hers a good few paragraphs earlier.
I'll let you in on a secret. I read The Eyre Affair not long ago and when Thursday Next talks about Jane Eyre having a naff ending, that she goes off to India with St John, I took it literally I had it in my head that I'd read Jane Eyre years ago, but I couldn't remember the ending, so failed to see the irony and humour in Thursday Next's comments and assumed Jane really did trek off to the Far East. It's with this in mind that I read JE - right up until the line, 'Reader I married him'. So imagine my glee when I realised Jane DID go back to Mr Rochester and my D-O-H! moment when it dawned on me that Thursday Next's rewriting of Jane Eyre in The Eyre Affair was Jasper Fforde being tongue in cheek! I thought that Thursday changed the ending to one we all wanted to read, but really it was only in TEA that Jane went with whinging St John to India. Now I see how witty Jasper Fforde was being - obviously I didn't see it at the time, but when I read the exact ending Thursday described ('Jane, Jane, Jane'), and the revelation dawned on me, I had to giggle. I couldn't help but picture Thursday Next in the wings, impersonating Rochester's voice at the point we think Jane may give in to St John and accept his marriage proposal. Genius, Mr Fforde
Right, back to Jane Eyre. I thought it was wonderful. I must admit, I found it dragged a bit when Jane decided to go wandering in the wilderness. I thought Mr Rochester was out of the picture altogether, of course , and I was having Mr R withdrawal symptoms. I remember thinking there were pages and pages to get through and for what? To see Jane ending up as a missionary's assistant. The thought, and injustice, of it made me want to chuck the book at the wall and I wondered how could this book be such a favourite amongst my book loving friends. I'm such a wally, aren't I?
The ending was a fab surprise and totally saved the book (and myself ). In a way, I'm glad I thought it was otherwise as it's been all the more satisfying to be proved wrong
I thought St John was horrible. No doubt engineered to contrast with Mr R and make us pine for his return to the novel. He was brainwashing Jane because she was convenient for him and she no doubt felt indebited to him for saving her life, so gave in to his whims. As to the far fetched story of her ending up at Moor House, well after reading the ending and how a psychic link up of their souls reunited Jane and Mr R, I'm wondering if it was Fate who led Jane to her cousins' door? The light she saw across the moor was like the star the three wise men followed. I read in the notes that Charlotte Bronte heard voices dictating poetry to her, so after reading that and understanding it to be something she believed in, made the idea of external/supernatural forces seeking to unite characters in the book plausible. Hoping not to sound twee, I believe the Universe provides us with our hearts' desires and gives us signs to show we're on the right path, so this could be what is going on in the book. Just a thought.
Anyway, I've rambled on enough. Hope it makes sense to anyone actually reading it I may just have read my fave book of the year. I'm sure the characters will live on in my memory for ages (hehe how can any woman forget Mr Rochester?). I've got the latest BBC adaptation of Jane Eyre to watch soon; I recorded a repeat of the series shown last year, so look forward to that. I'm also going to read Wide Sargasso Sea. Anything to let the book linger on. Ooh and a trip to the Bronte Parsonage is a must this year.
Does anyone know if there are other Jane Eyre inspired novels I could read?
Thanks for reading my long post. I give Jane Eyre 6/5 stars. _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
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Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7637 Birthday: 7th July
Location: Shropshire
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:33 am Post subject:
All these years I thought I'd already read Jane Eyre, and I hadn't really. I must have started it and put it down, not being in the right frame of mind at the time. It being such a well-known story, it probably felt like I'd read it. Anyway, I'm so glad I have finally done so and savoured every word. I'm amazed I thought I'd read it. There is so much more to the novel than I thought and expected. It blew me away. Sheer poetry some of it. And beats what I've read of Austen's works hands down. No disrespect to Jane Austen. I can't quite put my finger on what it is that makes the Bronte's works more brilliant...I think it's the rawness of them. _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
I read Jane Eyre years ago and really enjoyed it. I remember my sister had given me a long list of books she wanted and didn't mind if any were second hand. JE was one of them and I read it before I gave it to her. I remember panicking at bout 20 Dec that I was never going to finish it in time but I did.
I found it much more easily accessible than Wuthering Heights and it would make a good "first classic".
As for "Wide Sargasso Sea" I've seen the BBC production of it but not read it. My sister was struggling to read it and then it was the Radio 4 book at bedtime so she read it whilst listening and found it helped her through the book.
yey! Jane Eyre arrived from Amazon yesterday and I was awake until very late o'clock reading! I can't believe I haven't read this before.... Is it too early to vote when you've only got to chapter 10?
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7637 Birthday: 7th July
Location: Shropshire
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:27 am Post subject:
Fee wrote:
yey! Jane Eyre arrived from Amazon yesterday and I was awake until very late o'clock reading! I can't believe I haven't read this before.... Is it too early to vote when you've only got to chapter 10?
Hehe it's great isn't it Fee? I'm now watching the TV adaptation, hence my new avatar, and it's such a treat. I'm in fantasy land _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
Joined: 10 Oct 2007 Posts: 538 Birthday: 12th November
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:
I think sometimes we assume we "know" the classics without having read them,because such a lot have been filmed or adapted for television. That happened to me with Jane Eyre..I'd seen so many adaptations that when I finally read the book I was amazed at how much I didn't know. It's now one of my absolute favourites to re read.
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7637 Birthday: 7th July
Location: Shropshire
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:54 am Post subject:
Can anyone answer the question I've highlighted in red? It's bugging me!!
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I got the impression that Jane and Rochester were struggling to gain the upper hand over one another whenever they met. She particularly liked to tease and manipulate him. It must've been a thrill to wind him up:
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It little mattered whether my curiosity irritated him: I knew the pleasure of vexing and soothing him by turns; it was one I chiefly delighted in, and a sure instinct always prevented me from going too far: beyond the verge or provocation I never ventured; on the extreme brink I liked well to try my skill. Retaining every minute form of respect, every propriety of my station, I could still meet him in argument without fear of uneasy restraint: this suited both him and me.
Jane saved his life and in response he practically declared his feelings for her, making him vulnerable, and giving her the upper hand in the relationship. She wanted to question him about the fire, but instead he leaves with no bye or leave thereby taking control again, keeping her guessing. Quite cruel really! I also wonder if he wanted to avoid Jane's questions about who caused the fire, as well as to get away from the dungeon that Thornfield was for him.
It bugs me that Jane never takes Rochester aside and asks exactly what is going on in the attic. And he expects her to stay up all night to tend an injured man without any explanation. Using her because she's convenient, or cos he trusts her not to talk? You wouldn't go through that then agree to marry the man without some sort of explanation. How could he bring her to the brink of discovering Bertha, then not bother to reveal her existence? I know he was in desperate measures, but it was a despicable way to treat Jane's intelligence. Why doesn't she ask what's going on? . But then, if he's forever galloping off, it's no wonder she doesn't get the chance to ask! Blinkered by her love for him perhaps, and Rochester no doubt wanting to secure her love, afraid she'll leave if all is revealed.
Would be interested to know your thoughts. Thanks _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
I'm sure the characters will live on in my memory for ages (hehe how can any woman forget Mr Rochester?).
I felt the same when I read this a couple of years ago. I managed to go through all my schools years, a BA in English Lit and I decided to read it in the first year of my MA, and even then I read it for pleasure!
I absolutely adore this novel, the Bronte's certainly know about characterisation! An Mr Rochester! PHEW!
This is certainly a classic that has left an imprint on my mind far more than many of my required reading throughout the 5 years at uni!
Another favourite of mine is Wuthering Heights! _________________ Reading: The Devil and Miss Prym by Paulo Coelho
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Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7637 Birthday: 7th July
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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:41 pm Post subject:
I adore Wuthering Heights! Mr Rochester is definitely to die for, even though his behaviour towards Jane at the beginning is despicable at times, you understand why he's like it and that he yearns to be loved for who he is just like Jane. I didn't find Heathcliff at all attractive though. Thought he was vile, but felt for his and Cathy's doomed relationship and how much he felt for her.
Wish the Brontes had written more books.
I had a kids illustrated version of Jane Eyre given to me by my sister-in-law when I was about 10. Tried reading it but didn't think it much of a kids' book, it not being written like an Enid Blyton book I told my sis-in-law and she said 'I needed life experience under my belt' to appreciate it which went over my head! But of course she was right. Read it in my early teens and it was nothing like the book I've just read. it had a lot to do with the illustrations which weren't bleak; they showed Thornfield as a cosy mansion which isn't how I pictured it this time round.
Even though the writing is accessible, I wouldn't call it a kids' book. I found some of it quite raunchy and at one point Mr R in despair threatens to rape Jane if need be! _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
I'm afraid I won't have time to read this this month which I am a bit upset about because it was one of the books I nominated! Oh well, will definately try to get it read next month! _________________ Swap List: http://tinyurl.com/33pg6r
Currently Reading "Switchcraft" by Lowri Turner
What a wonderful book... I so enjoyed it! I read the last chapters with tears flowing down my cheeks...
for having this on the January list x
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I agree with Glynis, the character of Jane seems unlikely to give up on finding out what happened with the fire so easily... It seems she is content to believe that Grace Poole did it, but with no meaningful enquiry into why... oh well, I guess I'll have to read it all again to find out why!
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 4137 Birthday: 12th December
Location: Cumbria
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:13 pm Post subject:
I have seen so many screen versions of this book that I found it a bit strange at first reading this book. But the writing took the story to another dimension and I am glad I made the effort to read it.
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I quite liked Jane; she was independent and a survivor – so why oh why did she fall for Edward Rochester??????
It must have been because he was the first ‘single’ man she had a chance to get to know. What does this man have going for him? He’s ugly, he’s twenty years older than her, he likes to play underhand practical jokes, (dressing as a gipsy to try and get Jane to tell him what she felt), and he was ultimately very selfish. He was more than willing to betray Jane by marrying her when he was already married. Nice man!
But having said all that, compared to the other male characters in the book he was the best of the bunch. John Reed may only have been a boy when she lived with them but what a very unpleasant, violent spoilt child.
Then there was Mr Brocklehurst. A strict harsh man who didn’t practise what he preached. Depriving the children of food and decent clothing because he ‘believed’ that he was his duty to God to do so, yet his wife and daughter were dressed in finery and were well fed.
Then there was St John –I don’t love you be you would be a good missionary wife so marry me - ???????. Very romantic.
So I think Edward Rochester was best of a bad lot. I did think better of him by the end of the book, when he had risked his own life to save his wife’s but I hated the way he spoke about her and the language he used to describe her when she was in the attic.
As to the question why didn’t Jane ask more questions about what was going on in the attic – sometimes you don’t ask the question because you don’t really want to know the answer.
I liked the book rather than loved it but it has wakened an interest in the Bronte’s. It is said that the book contains a lot of Charlotte own life, if this is right which of the religious figure represent her father? Did Miss Temple represent her mother? Dianna and Mary her sisters? I must find out more.
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject:
I believe it is quite autobiographical, as is The Professor which Charlotte wrote and uses her brief time as a teacher in Belgium. I have read several biographies of the Brontes too, I find it all absolutely fascinating.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:42 am Post subject:
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sometimes you don’t ask the question because you don’t really want to know the answer.
you hit the nail on the head there Blueflower. He was horrible, I agree, but he and Jane clicked and I think Jane got a thrill from knowing how to handle him. She liked to push him to the edge without tipping him over it, if you get my drift. They were forever playing power games with one another and I reckon Rochester dressing up as a fortune teller, though odd, was one of his ways of gaining the upper hand in their relationship. He was very insecure and tried to get Jane to declare her feelings for him on a few occasions despite it not being the done thing for a female employee to admit such to her master. And at that, the likelihood of her being more than his mistress would be slim. So he was very cruel toying with her like that, but Jane played with his emotions too. I can see the attraction even though he was abusive towards her at the beginning. And she had reservations about being with him at first didn't she? She was worried he'd go off her after a while and have affairs.
_________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 4137 Birthday: 12th December
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject:
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Yes, I can see why Jane was concerned that he would just have his wicked way then send her on her way. But I think he should have understand the situation and have realised that she won't have declared her feelings until she was certain of his. Mind you if he had been better behaved towards Jane the story would have been rubbish.
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject:
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blueflower wrote:
Yes, I can see why Jane was concerned that he would just have his wicked way then send her on her way. But I think he should have understand the situation and have realised that she won't have declared her feelings until she was certain of his. Mind you if he had been better behaved towards Jane the story would have been rubbish.
That's true. He wouldn't be a Byronic hero either, just some normal bloke.
_________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
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2008: 4
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:
I've just finished reading this book and really did enjoy it. I last read it about 10 years ago so I did remember the ending. Having said that it didn't spoil it because I'd forgotten most of the rest of it!
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I loved the scenes where Jane discovers the River family and becomes accepted by them, after her wanderings in the wilderness. I'd completely forgotten the fact that she was their cousin, so when St John told her about her fortune and how they all were related, I really felt for Jane'e elation at the discovery that she has a family to love.
I did like Mr Rochester and can see why Jane loves him. However all the mind games he played were soooo annoying. I felt like shaking him. Also the bit where he threatens to be violent wasn't too impressive.
St John was hideous and it makes you wonder why Jane put up with him, but perhaps that's just a sign of the times. She gave him £5000 and yet he still parted company with her saying that she's borderline to condeming herself to Hell. His self importance was awful, but the subserviant side of Jane let him get away with it.
This book is definitely one I'll always come back to and it's awakened something in me to read more of the classics, the other bronte's and Austen. Although I thoroughly enjoyed it, I did give it 4/5 this is purely because some of the descriptions I felt were too detailed and I found myself skimming sections so I could get back to the action. _________________ Currently Reading:
I didn't re-read Jane Eyre as I too have an enormous tbr list and this is my all time favourite book so if I had all the others would have sat there even longer as I always love to take my time with this one just to make it last that bit longer. I still remember to this day when I first read this one (I was about 13 I think) and all the emotion I felt along the way are still the same although maybe a little tempered now. All the outrage at the way she was treated, all the tears and sorrow she felt. All in all it's enough to leave you a gibbering wreak but I still love it!
I read Jane Eyre about 18 months ago and absolutely loved it. I sometimes find 'classics' a bit hard going, but this was so easy to read and I felt like I could really relate to Jane. It was the kind of book where all I wanted to do was scream at the pages and tell Jane my point of view! I love how Mr Rochester is somehow so appealing even though you know he isn't always a nice man. Definitely an example of how women are attracted to bad boys!
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