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Tatiana VIP Guest


Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 39 Birthday: September 28 1961
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| annecater wrote: | I agree with the comparisons to Sophie's Choice and Anne Frank (two books that I intend to re-read soon).
Mentioning Michel in the cupboard - was that based on a story that you heard, or was it totally fictional?
I remember telling my Mum about the book and she couldnt bear to listen to the part about Michel - yet now she is reading the book herself.
Knowing what anguish Sarah's parents must have felt, knowing that they may never return, yet Sarah's joy at 'saving' her brother was heartbreaking stuff. |
No it was a fictional story. I kept thinking this sort of thing could have happened...don't forget it was the French police who came that morning, not the Nazis.. alot of families really did think they would be coming back, that they were not in danger. Sarah thought she had put her brother in a safe place... _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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| MarionH wrote: | Tatiana, since I wrote that blog, the fellow whose parents were rounded up in Paris has spoken to our class, so I need to clarify some things. His name is Nathan Kranowski and he spoke on: Jewish Death and Survival in France during the Holocaust: My Personal Experience.
He was 3 years old when the French police rounded up his father; he has little direct memory of that. One year later, they came for his mother, leaving the 4-year-old alone in the apartment. His aunt lived in the same complex and he somehow found his way to her apartment; she placed him with a rural farming family, then he was sent alone, at about the age of 10, to New York City to live with another aunt.
All he has of his parents, who were poor immigrant Poles, is an old sepia-toned picture that his aunt believes may have been their wedding picture.
Kranowski is now a retired college professor whose grandaughter carries his mother's name. |
Marion, that is so sad. It is one of the things that shocked me whilst reading Sarah's Key - I had no idea infants and children were left to fend for themselves in the concentration camps, and ones under a certain age left behind during the roundup. Is it true that a lot of the men were in hiding, assuming it'd be them taken and not the women and children? _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I am sorry but have to go now...
Tatiana...Thank you so much for giving us this amazing story, and good luck with your future writing, can't wait to read your next book !!
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Tatiana VIP Guest


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Glynis wrote: | | Tatiana, when and how did you find out about the Vel d'Hiv roundup? Did you know straightaway that you wanted to write about it? |
I first heard of it during Chirac's famous speech in 1995.
Now children are taught about it here in France, but this is recent.
No, I didn't know I was going to write about it nor how. all I know is that it got to me so much, I felt such and despair, that I had to write about it. Also, I was stupefied by the amount of french people who don't know about it. Or who think they do...(and I still am) _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Tatiana VIP Guest


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Glynis wrote: | | Is it true that a lot of the men were in hiding, assuming it'd be them taken and not the women and children? |
In the case of this round up, alas, totally true. _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Tatiana VIP Guest


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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| jobar wrote: | I am sorry but have to go now...
Tatiana...Thank you so much for giving us this amazing story, and good luck with your future writing, can't wait to read your next book !!
Au revoir..  |
au revoir to you ! and thank you !  _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| lisa2062 wrote: | | Tatiana, how do you cope with a hectic schedule such as yours? Lisa x |
Now why do you think my schedule is hectic ?  _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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MarionH Babblers First Words

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Tatiana, yes, the men were taken first according to what we learned in class, then the women and children. The Nazis did not want the children to grow up and reproduce; they wanted to completely annihilate the Jews.
And there were many hiding places built into structures as the Holocaust continued.
The US Holocaust Museum has an amazing Web site, with a virtual tour. It's at http://www.USHM.org |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| MarionH wrote: | Tatiana, yes, the men were taken first according to what we learned in class, then the women and children. The Nazis did not want the children to grow up and reproduce; they wanted to completely annihilate the Jews.
And there were many hiding places built into structures as the Holocaust continued.
The US Holocaust Museum has an amazing Web site, with a virtual tour. It's at http://www.USHM.org |
thank you marion _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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I'm so sorry I missed this but will have a look over all the posts now, thank you for joining us, Tatiana. _________________ Currently reading - The Italian Boy - Murder and Grave Robbery in 1830s London - Sarah Wise |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Tatiana wrote: | | Glynis wrote: | | Tatiana, when and how did you find out about the Vel d'Hiv roundup? Did you know straightaway that you wanted to write about it? |
I first heard of it during Chirac's famous speech in 1995.
Now children are taught about it here in France, but this is recent.
No, I didn't know I was going to write about it nor how. all I know is that it got to me so much, I felt such and despair, that I had to write about it. Also, I was stupefied by the amount of french people who don't know about it. Or who think they do...(and I still am) |
I know it's probably more important to teach this aspect of WW2 in French schools, but it's not taught here either. I certainly knew nothing of the Vel d'Hiv roundup, I'd never heard of it. It makes me wonder who decides what is and isn't on the curriculum regarding WW2... _________________ Currently Reading:
The Moonlit Cage - Linda Holeman
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| lovely treez wrote: | | I'm so sorry I missed this but will have a look over all the posts now, thank you for joining us, Tatiana. |
you're welcome ! I'm still here ! had a little difficulty logging in, but made it in the end  _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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I think Sarah's Key should be on the reading list in schools over here, maybe for A level students. _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| heathera wrote: | [
I know it's probably more important to teach this aspect of WW2 in French schools, but it's not taught here either. I certainly knew nothing of the Vel d'Hiv roundup, I'd never heard of it. It makes me wonder who decides what is and isn't on the curriculum regarding WW2... |
SK has been published now in 10 countries (10 more on the way) and believe me , most of my Italian, spanish, dutch, german, swedish, portugese, russian, polish and greek readers, not to mention my US ones, had never heard of the Vel d'Hiv... _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Glynis wrote: | | I think Sarah's Key should be on the reading list in schools over here, maybe for A level students. |
I agree. Certainly if it's not studied indepth, then it should be incorporated within the wider reading that A'Level students are guided towards. _________________ Currently Reading:
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| heathera wrote: | | Glynis wrote: | | I think Sarah's Key should be on the reading list in schools over here, maybe for A level students. |
I agree. Certainly if it's not studied indepth, then it should be incorporated within the wider reading that A'Level students are guided towards. |
Yes definitely. It's one of those books I'd love to see as a Richard & Judy book choice too.  _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Glynis wrote: | | I think Sarah's Key should be on the reading list in schools over here, maybe for A level students. |
It is now being read here in france in classes, and the paper back which is out in three weeks time, will make that even easier. and I'm jolly happy about it. the most surprising thing is how teens love this book ! I never would have expected it. every time I log on to msn, my teen readers flock in. I find that fantastic ! I have 2 teens who never read.  _________________ http://figtreefranglais.blogspot.com/ |
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Tatania, thought I'd missed you too. Thank you so much for taking the time to come on and talk to us. I loved your book and am enjoying the chat too.
I did very little history at school, I opted for geography but I've also never heard of the round up. I think because of Anne Frank's diary we all know about round ups in Holland but I'd never really thought about France, partly I guess because of efforts to conceal it.
Fiction that is close to real life and tells us what it might have been like is one of my favourites and I agree this should be on school reading lists.
Thanks again,
Sarah (yes, a common name!)
(And I too will be eagerly awaiting your next novel in english, think my A level French is far too rusty to attempt the others.)
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