On a score of 1-5 stars (5 being the best), how do you rate The Accidental?
* Couldn't stand it!
6%
[ 1 ]
**
18%
[ 3 ]
***
25%
[ 4 ]
****
0%
[ 0 ]
***** Loved it!
6%
[ 1 ]
Gave up on it (explain why below)
25%
[ 4 ]
Didn't read this one
18%
[ 3 ]
Total Votes : 16
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Ruth An Addicted Babbler
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 527 Birthday: 9th July
Location: West Midlands
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:
I wasn't sure what to make of this book. Unfortunately, I found that I really did not like Amber at all.
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I thought at first the reader was supposed to like Amber, as she was the one who brought a breath of fresh air to the Smarts, but in actual fact, I just found her to be a horrible person.
There were a few loose ends that I thought would be tied up, but weren't. For example, I thought that Astrid and Magnus' father would come into the story at some point, but he never did.
Neither could I warm to any of the family, except Astrid, who I thought was the only one who had any chance of happiness in the future.
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Although this was probably the intention of the author, I was confused about who or what Amber was. Okay, so we know that she was concieved in a cinema in 1968, but I didn't like the (thankfully) short parts where she talked about herself as though she had lived through so many major historical events
I did find the writing style a bit annoying - no speech marks around the speech, and the way sentences would just stop in the middle sometimes, although I realise that that is how people's thoughts sometimes work!
However, although all of my comments might sound fairly negative, I did quite enjoy the book, but not sure I would read another by Ali Smith for a long time!
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7612 Birthday: 7th July
Location: Shropshire
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:14 am Post subject:
Ok, ok I've had a moan about The Accidental, but as I was drifting off to sleep I thought about the things in it that have made me smile. Here they are:
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When Amber and Magnus are sitting outside the church and the old lady says, "you're a good boy, you are...There's not many boys as'd go to church like that all them days on their holidays in the time that's theirs. You'll make someone a good husband one day."
Michael's poetry bit in the middle. The way some of it is worded made me smile. So I guess Smith made me smile here, not Michael. He doesn't make me smile, he makes me grimace. Don't like him at all.
The fact that Magnus is having it off with Amber makes me smile.
Gosh that's about it. Oh and Eve's interview bit when she's asked, 'is that a Scottish way of saying that?'. Guess you had to be there.
I think the novel would work well as a film.
This is part of a review I read today about The Accidental:
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The character who sets everything moving was conceived in 1968 in a cinema, after which she is named Alhambra. The film out of which her mother walked in order to seduce the barman was Poor Cow, starring Terence Stamp. But it’s from another of Stamp’s films of that year, one not named here, that Smith seems to have borrowed her plot. In Pasolini’s Theorem a vagrant who may be an angel, or a criminal maniac (or both), makes an inexplicable appearance in the home of an apparently commonplace family. As played by the androgynously beautiful young Stamp, the mysterious visitor is sexually irresistible. His presence is troubling at every level. By the time he leaves, the repressions and compromises that protected the peaceful normality of his hosts’ lives have been stripped away, leaving them bewildered and half mad.
Smith’s version of this archetypal fable is less mystical than Pasolini’s, but funnier.
Having not heard of this film before, I didn't pick up on the relevance of it in the opening chapter of the novel. Having it explained makes more sense. I do think of Amber as an idea rather than a character - like she's projected into the Smarts' lives as though onto a movie screen. She's ambiguous (like the ghosts in The Turn of the Screw which I recently read, but that's another story).
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Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 7612 Birthday: 7th July
Location: Shropshire
Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:
I've just finished The Accidental and I started to really enjoy the book when
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Eve told Amber to get out of her house. Yeah! I didn't like Amber at all. She was an annoying know-it-all with an answer for everything, and she was rude. I would've kicked her out ages ago. But as soon as she bogged off, the stifling feeling I had whilst reading lifted, if you get my meaning. I even started to feel fond of Michael after he was found out. I found some of his musings quite amusing It was as if the answer machine's messages brought a lot of their issues to a head - Magnus could tell people about Catherine Masson; Michael would have to rethink his career and adulterous ways; and Eve could move on from writing those Genuine Article books. She seemed stuck in a rut (cliche) with them. I loved the scene where Michael and the kids sat down to watch a Hitchcock film. Found that scene quite endearing. If I read this book again, knowing what style of writing to expect, I would probably enjoy it more and rate it higher. I definitely enjoyed it once that awful Amber was sent packing. I found the book quite dull in the first half, to the point where Amber brought a bit of relief and stirred things up a bit, but I didn't like her one bit. Maybe because she says what she thinks - we don't want to be told the truth.
Anyway, think I might keep the book now! _________________ Reading: Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow by Peter Hoeg
Reading Challenge 2009: 8
2008: 4
2007: 10
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 180 Birthday: 20th April
Location: Middlesex
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject:
I know I've taken a long time to get around to reveiwing this book!
Thanks to Glynis for all her comments.
I gave thje book 3 stars & found the first chapter hard going but then got into it fairly quickly. I also disliked Amber & never figured her out. The Smarts seemed to be a very unhappy family & Amber somehow gave them life or at least injected some life into their boring routines. I especially liked the fact that she slept with Magnus & not Michael as he would have wanted & I think her entry into their lives changed them for the better if only by making them wake up & see how awful their family was.
I think the story of how Astrid filmed the dead cat & poked it to see if it was still alive is an ??allegory of Amber's entrance into their life as a family which would be the dead cat & she poked them to see it they were still alive & could get a response. Also at the end Eve goes to the USA to a place near the Catskill mountains !! or maybe I'm just rambling I hated the poetry bit in the middle. Yawn !!
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 630 Birthday: 6th October
Location: norwich,norfolk
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:
thats okay amarie-so nice to get diffrent thoughts and opinions on a book than from our usual members-don't think enough people are involved with the disscussions sometimes....
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 500 Birthday: 23rd April
Location: Manchester UK
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:39 am Post subject:
Started this yesterday, and I think I might like it ...(so far anyways) _________________ Current reading: Blind Man w/ a Pistol, Chester Himes ~ 39 @2009
Joined: 11 Feb 2007 Posts: 2492 Birthday: 19th July
Location: Dorset, UK
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject:
Well, somewhat later than many of you, I have finally read this book. And I think my overall opinion is ok.
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Like most of you I didn't like Amber and the way she behaved but mostly I think because no one challenged her which allowed her to become steadily worse. The other characters were ok and seemed to improve as the book went on. I agree that Michael became more likeable once his affairs were known, and he seemed to be a good parent to Marcus and Astrid once Eve was gone. And Magnus and Astrid seemed to be getting along too near the end.
I'd also agree with the comments that the author was trying to be innovative but that it didn't entirely work. The comments about the Terence Stamp film and plot were interesting too, but surely the book needs to work on its own merit and not just if you already know the other story.
Joined: 27 Jun 2008 Posts: 500 Birthday: 23rd April
Location: Manchester UK
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject:
Gosh I think I am the only one who enjoyed this
I liked Astrid, I think Ali Smith captured really well the way you're completely self-centered at that age still, and have too many thoughts in your head (rather than it being OCD)-- the way that everything is 'substandard'.
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I think one of the reasons the family might not have caused a fuss when Amber destroyed Astrid's video camera was purely beacause they were bloody relieved that she no longer had it glued to her eyeball. Also maybe because they were one of those middle-class families who didn't want to argue or cause a scene in front of 'company'.
My favourite line was when Magnus was thinking about his mother, p137.
His mother = small bird blinded by sunlight into forgetting it's still in a cage.
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